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  1. May 26, 2011  Auto-Tuning a guitar is coming, say Antares. But if that seems frightening, it may be worth a closer look. Photo of the (classic) guitar (CC-BY) John W. A new tool could be for the expressive, not just the lazy. That’s the read of Auto-Tune for guitar, and it makes me excited to see what.
  2. Jul 19, 2011  Auto Tune. Discussion in 'Sidewinders Bar & Grille' started by Rusty Fender, Jul 18, 2011. Believe was a stroke of genius in my opinion. In the early days of pitch correction software, the original pitch had to be fairly close to correct or you'd get that Cher effect.
  3. With the simple push of a button on the Peavey AT-200, guitar players can now create music in perfect tune and pitch. The Peavey AT-200 utilizes Antares Auto-Tune for Guitar, a DSP technology that works behind the scenes to bring the clarity of perfect pitch to a quality instrument in an unobtrusive manner.

If you haven’t heard of the G Force Tuning System yet, then you might be surprised to know that you can get a guitar that can automatically tune itself!

The Gibson automatic guitar tuning system isn’t the only one available but it’s one of the most well-known.

What is the G Force Automatic Tuning System

Essentially it is what it sounds like it is. It is an electronic system that automatically tunes your guitar for you.

Like, really.

It’s not like an electronic tuner that tells you how far off you are from being in tune.

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It figures out how far off you are and then tightens or loosens the strings automatically until they are in tune.

All you have to do is turn it on, strum the strings and it does it for you. You can also choose to do each string one at a time. But at no point do you ever touch the tuning pegs. They are tightened and loosened automatically.

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Importantly you do still have the option to tune manually. But make sure the G Force unit is turned off before you do.

How it Works

Basically there are small, lightweight motors inside each of the machine head. These motors can tighten or loosen the strings. The motors are attached to a controller module.

The controller can sense the vibration of the strings. From those vibrations, the controller calculates the frequency. If the frequency is not what the string is programmed to be, then the controller sends a signal to the machine head motor and instructs it to either tighten or loosen until the string is vibrating at the frequency that the string is programmed to be at.

Tuning All the Strings at Once (speed tune)

To tune all strings at once all you have to do is to push the on button, strum all of the strings open and then when the G Force is done tuning (when all the LEDs are green) it turns off automatically.

If any of the LEDs remain red then simply pluck that individual string until it is green.

Tune Each String Individually (precision tune)

If you want to tune each string individually (for more precision) then you hold the on button until the LED for the E string turns red. Pluck the E string – once that turns green, the next string will come up. Then pluck that string.

Keep going until each string has turned green (again it will turn off automatically once all the LEDs are green (i.e. once all of the strings are in tune.

Alternate Tunings

The G Force tuning system is set to tune for standard tuning as default.

However, there are also several alternate tunings that you can select – plus you can program in your own custom tunings too.

The tunings that are pre-set are separated into Green and Red pre-sets. The blue pre-set is where you enter in your custom tunings. It starts out as standard tuning until you program in your custom tunings.

There are also low tuning pre-sets. These are the white and the yellow pre-set banks. Then there is a Magenta pre-set banks where you can do custom low tunings. The Magenta defaults to C tuning (which is C, F, A#, D#, G, C)

The pre-sets are outlined in the table below.

RedGreenBlueWhiteYellowMagenta
StandardOpen ECustom (user programmed)C TuningOpen CCustom (user programmed)
DADGADOpen ACustomLow COpen C6Custom
Whole Step DownOpen DCustomC SharpOpen BCustom
Drop DOpen GCustomB TuningDouble Drop C#Custom
Half Step DownDobroCustomDropped CDouble Drop CCustom
Double Drop DAll 4thsCustomDropped BDouble Drop BCustom

Once you select an alternate tuning and have the G Force tune to that tuning it becomes the default. So the next time you use the G Force to tune it will tune to that.

To make Standard tuning the default again you simply go to the red pre-set bank and select standard tuning.

Re-Stringing

The re-stringing process is slightly different – and you can use the G Force to wind your strings too.

However, you cannot use a string winder when you have the G Force tuning system.

Other functions

You can also set the G Force to tune to another instrument. This requires some tuning by ear – but still makes the process faster.

For example – you are playing with a pianist and the piano isn’t tuned perfectly. You just tune one of your strings to the piano and then the G Force can tune the rest based on that one string.

Can I add this to an Existing Guitar?

The tech that goes into this has to be pretty precise. So currently you can’t just buy a g force unit and install it on a guitar. To take advantage of the system you need to buy a Gibson guitar that already has the system.

Does it Work Properly?

A lot of people are skeptical of this type of thing actually doing the job properly. But this was also the case when electronic tuners first made it to the market.

Yes, a lot of those weren’t great initially but now a lot of guitarists stake their reputation on them.

Now, even if you haven’t heard of guitar automatic tuning systems before, don’t make the mistake of thinking they are new to the market. They have been around since 2008. So they’ve had 8 years and counting to actually make these things good.

That said, there are still people who think that jury is out on this. Whilst, there are others who wouldn’t buy a guitar without it – because they spend so much more time playing their guitar and a lot less time tuning it.

What’s been your experience? If you’ve tried, or own a guitar with the G Force tuning system, how well do you think it works?

Is it a Good Thing or a Gimmick?

Is this kind of technology actually helpful? Or is just a selling point?

Some seem to argue that this is something for lazy guitarists who don’t want to tune themselves – or for poor guitarists who can’t tune themselves – and that everyone should tune by ear.

Others say it’s simply a convenient and fast way to tune – and that it doesn’t replace tuning by ear but simply allows for quick tuning saving time – and for a quick convenient way to tune on stage or if you playing with an orchestra. You can quickly and silently get in tune.

What do I think?

I think that it would be more than handy to have for a stage situation. And for tuning to other instruments.

I also think that some guitarists could use it exclusively and never learn to tune by ear – which wouldn’t be a great thing – particularly if your G Force ran out of batteries! And also because it’s a skill worth knowing.

However, like electronic tuners didn’t, the G Force tuning system isn’t going to breed a generation of guitarists that can’t tune by ear.

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There’s a bit of a debate in the link below (you can also learn more about how the G Force works there too). Check out the comments at the end of the article – there are two comments by Joe Quimby and Dlydianb7 near the top – then scroll further down and you’ll see the start of their debate – a total of 6 comments back and forth (in my opinion Dlydianb7 was the clear winner).

More importantly – what do you think?

Is this a good piece of technology?

Is this something that will enhance the guitar experience or dumb it down?

Is this something that you’d like to have on your next guitar?

Just leave a comment in the comments section below. I’d love to hear other people’s opinions on this.

Originally Posted by hautbois16
While I have never used Autotune in Reaper, I know that pitch correction can be adjusted to have a PROFOUND effect on the sound of a track. I record a one-man quartet; and on one hymn I did a few months ago, I set my pitch correction to its maximum value. The result was very solid tuning of all four parts - a sound unlike anything I have heard before! In some ways, I like the sound; yet I know that it would be rather extreme if I were to use pitch correction set that tightly on all of my quartet recordings. Still, I admire that performance as in a way the epitome of one of my goals of the quartet which I call 'Crystal Control.' That particular aspect of what I am after is to create a vocal tone as if the pitches were controlled or keyed from an electronic keyboard. My college voice teacher would run me out of town if she heard that performance, and I would agree that I wouldn't want that on many of the songs I record; but at times I like it. Yes, I have no doubt that a good pitch-correction routine can DEFINITELY make a difference between the corrected and uncorrected sound. In the extreme maximum settting, a singer with even a moderately wide vibrato might produce something which could sound something like a trill. I suspect that you will notice a difference if you find the settings needed to get it. Of course, if you happen to sing with a very straight tone as I do and you sing extremely well in tune, maybe the pitch correction doesn't need to do much to your voice. The phase difference you notice might be occurring due to a slight time delay introduced by the correction function.
Agreed. I never once have used pitch correction software algorithms to decide what the track needs.

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Always a line by line human decision. No software will 'fix' anything.
In the case of Melodyne full version, there are so many variables that can be used to help polish a track. 5 years of myself knowing the tools and how to use them, and it still sometimes can be a challenge.
I hear there is a basic version of Melodyne with Studio one? That is not the same as the full version. The full version can adjust a single guitar note in a chord. I have used it to take an accidental open 'A' in a live acoustic recording.

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It does take some experience to make it work well, but there is always a compromise.

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Anyway, I hope to help... My post may or not be helpful for this situation. Just giving my insight.